It’s not socialism, it’s democratic socialism. What does that mean?

When I speak with Bernie Sanders’ supporters I often get in to the tit for tat on what socialism is, compared to democratic socialism. I do not see a difference. All other tyrants that fly the socialism banner were elected via democratic process as well.

I compare some of world history to modern day socialist ideologies, including comparing socialism of the past to the new and improved “democratic socialism”.

Its not socialism its democratic socialism – What does that mean? – Youtube


How did the Nazi’s rise to power? Was it through a violent take over or democratic process?

The German National Election of 1933 was the democratic process that took the National Socialist German Workers Party to power.

Federal elections were held in Germany on 5 March 1933. The 1933 poll was held after the Nazi seizure of power and the Reichstag fire, just six days before the election. Nazi storm troopers had unleashed a campaign of violence against the Communist Party (KPD), left-wingers, trade unionists, the Social Democratic Party of Germany; and the centre-right Catholic Centre Party.

Here is how the democratic election turned out.

Adolf Hitler won; 196 seats, 33.09% .

Otto Wells won; 121 seats, 20.43% .

Ernst Thälmann won; 100 seats, 16.86% .

Making Hitler the winner.

There were violent protesters that interupted the campaigns of the other candidates from the National Socialist party. But in all it was a very democratic rise to power, much like the presidential elections in the USA. Even in our own country today, we see protesters from one campaign, waging violent protests against another campaign. Blocking access to caucases, and intimidating voters.

As the name implies, the National Socialist German Workers Party was founded primarily to promote socialism in Germany. National Socialism originally stood for partial collectivism aimed primarily at large industrial corporations, leading financial institutions, and wealthy landowners, as detailed in the party’s Twenty-Five Points of 1920. The Twenty-Five Points included the following socialist demands.

·“Every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood.”

·“All unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.”

·“Total confiscation of all war profits.”

·“Nationalization of all trusts.”

·“Profit-sharing in large industries.”

·“Increase in old-age pensions.”

·“Communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople.”

·“A law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose.”

·“The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.”

·“Usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.”

·“The State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people.”

·“Specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.”


·Not unlike candidates in the USA who claim a socialst ideology, the Nazi’s played on the fears and distress of the poverty and class warfare in Germany.

·Hitler was a charasmatic speaker, and appealed to many with his charming words and passionate speeches.

·It is said that Hitler was not Jewish, but in fact he was of Jewish ancestry. Hitler’s father Alois Shicklgruber later was adopted and took his adopted father’s name.

I make this point, because people say that Jews can not act like Hitler. My point is, that Hitler was of Jewish ancestry, so it is a moot point.

How does this apply to modern day politics? There are many applications. I recommend that you do your own research and come to your own conclusions.

My question to you, is when has socialism ever been anything but fascist?

My point is, that even in the USA we do have some socialism. Which for example, if I decided not to pay into Social Security, I can be charged with “tax evasion”. If I still refuse to pay, or if I don’t. I may be found guilty of tax evasion, and in that case, I would have men with guns come to my home and kidnap me, and stick me in a cage. Famous people such as Wesley Snipes have served years in prison for similar issues, and there are currently thousands of other people in prison for tax evasion in the USA. Despite that Social Security is technically insurance, it is considered a tax.

I have made this point in the past.

In my libertarian world you can choose to be a socialist, however in your socialist world I can not choose to be libertarian (legally)“.  That is the definition of fascism, where one side forces their point of view on the other.

This is how every socialist society ends up. With an overwhelming amount of people locked up, for not giving up what is rightfully theirs.

I see the compassion and the good will behind the intentions of socialist ideologies. But I worry that if we sacrifice liberty for security, we will end up having neither.


Ryan Thompson March 26th 2016


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